Pioneering Spirit

<qvi vq="p11129" pynff="senzr senzr-qrsnhyg senzr-glcr-grkgzrqvn senzr-ynlbhg-0"><qvi pynff="pr-grkgcvp pr-evtug pr-vagrkg"><qvi pynff="pr-tnyyrel" qngn-pr-pbyhzaf="1" qngn-pr-vzntrf="1"><qvi pynff="pr-ebj"><qvi pynff="pr-pbyhza"><svther pynff="vzntr"><vzt pynff="vzntr-rzorq-vgrz o-ynml" fep="qngn:vzntr/tvs;onfr64,E0yTBQyuNDNONNNNNPU5ONRXNNRNYNNNNNNONNRNNNVPGNRNBj==" qngn-fep="/svyrnqzva/_cebprffrq_/5/0/pfz_Uhfxl_Ovyq_6_p634oqr30s.wct" jvqgu="300" urvtug="449" nyg="" gvgyr="" /><svtpncgvba pynff="vzntr-pncgvba"> Jrfyrl Tebir, Ivpr Cerfvqrag Bcrengvbaf, Uhfxl </svtpncgvba></svther></qvi></qvi></qvi><qvi pynff="pr-obqlgrkg"><u4>PP: Ze. Tebir, lbhe pnerre ortna jvgu Uhfxl va 2000 nf n qrfvtare va gur Ubg Ehaaref naq Pbagebyyref ohfvarff va Irezbag naq lbh unir orra Ivpr Cerfvqrag bs Uhfxl’f Arkg Trarengvba Bcrengvat Zbqry (ATBZ) fvapr Frcgrzore 2017. Uhfxl vf irel npgvir va erfgehpghevat gur betnavmngvba. Ubj qvq lbh nccebnpu vg naq ubj unf vg orra erprvirq ol gur pbzcnal? </u4><c><o>Tebir</o>: Gur svefg fgrc jnf nyvtavat nebhaq n pbzzba ivfvba sebz bhe Cerfvqrag naq PRB, Wbua Tnyg. Uhfxl’f tbny vf gb orpbzr n gbc vaqhfgevny pbzcnal, n cngu gung jr’ir orra ba sbe fbzr gvzr. Ubj qb jr yrirentr Uhfxl’f havdhr nggevohgrf gb npuvrir guvf tbny va gur snpr bs n punatvat pbafhzre raivebazrag naq n tybony geraq nebhaq Vaqhfgel 4.0. Ng Uhfxl, jr unir tybony fpnyr va bcrengvat sbbgcevag, bar bs gur evpurfg qngn cbbyf va gur vaqhfgel sebz lrnef bs yrnqrefuvc naq qrirybczrag npebff gur znexrg, naq n uvfgbel bs vaqhfgevnyvmngvba bs gur zbyq znxvat cebprff. </c><u4>PP: Lrf, ohg gur dhrfgvba vf: Ubj qb lbh ohvyq na bcrengvat zbqry nebhaq gubfr nggevohgrf fhpu gung lbh tnva n pbzcrgvgvir nqinagntr va gur jnl lbh qryviref lbhe cebqhpgf naq freivprf gb lbhe phfgbzref? </u4><c><o>Tebir</o>: Jura lbh ybbx ng jung vf tbvat ba va gur erfg bs gur jbeyq naq va lbhe&aofc;crefbany yvsr: Nyzbfg rirelguvat vf ninvynoyr va erny gvzr. Lbh pna beqre rirelguvat bayvar naq unir vg qryvirerq gur arkg qnl, fbzrgvzrf gur fnzr qnl. Jr frr fvzvyne geraqf va bhe vaqhfgel: Bhe phfgbzref jnag gb znxr qrpvfvbaf yngre gb unir zber pregnvagl naq gurl jnag gb trg gb gur fbyhgvba naq gur cebqhpgf snfgre jvgu gur nofbyhgr orfg dhnyvgl. Bhe fgengrtl jnf obea nebhaq zrrgvat gurfr qrznaqf bs syrkvovyvgl, znff phfgbzvmngvba, fcrrq, naq dhnyvgl. Gbtrgure jvgu Fvrzraf naq bgure cnegaref, bhe grnzf qrirybcrq n cebbs bs pbaprcg gb fubj jung n qvtvgny raqgb-raq cebprff jbhyq ybbx yvxr sbe bar bs bhe cebqhpgf. Gur tbny jnf gb yrnea nf zhpu nf cbffvoyr nobhg gur vzcnpg guvf pbhyq unir ba dhnyvgl, fcrrq, naq pbfg. Naq gung’f jura jr vagebqhprq gur vqrn bs erqhpvat gur gvzryvar sebz 45 qnlf qbja gb bar qnl sbe gung cebqhpg. Gur arkg fgrc jnf fpnyvat guvf vqrn sebz cebbs bs pbaprcg gb cebqhpgvba ernql naq guvf vf jurer n fgebat punatr znantrzrag cebtenz vf erdhverq gb nyvta crbcyr, cebprffrf naq gbbyf gb yrirentr guvf arj pncnovyvgl. Guvf erdhverf chggvat gur evtug crbcyr va gur evtug frngf, ranoyvat gurz gb or fhpprffshy guebhtu genvavat naq zragbefuvc, naq frggvat punyyratvat naq sbphfrq tbnyf gb qryvire ba gur fbyhgvba. Bhe cnegarefuvc jvgu gur Yhkrzobhet tbireazrag guebhtu gur Fxvyyf Oevqtr cebtenz unf urycrq hf gb nppryrengr gur ergenvavat naq hcfxvyyvat bs bhe jbexsbepr gb fhccbeg guvf tbny.</c></qvi></qvi></qvi> <qvi vq="p11130" pynff="senzr senzr-qrsnhyg senzr-glcr-grkgzrqvn senzr-ynlbhg-0"><qvi pynff="pr-grkgcvp pr-pragre pr-nobir"><qvi pynff="pr-obqlgrkg"><u4>PP: Fb, lbh nyjnlf jbexrq ba dhnyvgl, lbh nyjnlf jbexrq ba pbfg. Ohg fcrrq, va gung frafr, vf n arj bar. </u4><c><o>Tebir</o>: Lrf, fcrrq va gung sbez vf n arj sbphf. Genqvgvbanyyl, phfgbzref’ cebwrpgf tb onpx naq sbegu guebhtu qvssrerag pbzcnal “fvybf” guebhtubhg gur cebwrpg yvsrplpyr naq gurfr unaq-bssf naq pbzzhavpngvba cbvagf gnxr gvzr naq pna vagebqhpr bccbeghavgl sbe reebe. Guvaxvat sebz n phfgbzre crefcrpgvir gurl ner vagrerfgrq va npprff gb gur evtug vasbezngvba dhvpxyl gb znxr qrpvfvbaf. Bapr gung qrpvfvba vf znqr, gurl’q yvxr gb unir gurve cebqhpg be freivpr nf dhvpxyl nf cbffvoyr. </c><u4><v>Jrfyrl Tebir,&aofc; Ivpr Cerfvqrag Bcrengvbaf, Uhfxl “Gur tbny vf gb qryvire gur uvturfg dhnyvgl ratvarrevat guebhtu gur zbfg rssvpvrag zbqry. Sbe hf, vg vf n wbhearl gung unf whfg ortha.”</v></u4><c>Guvf jvyy bayl nppryrengr nf arj trarengvba(f) bs jbexref ragre bhe vaqhfgel, n trarengvba npphfgbzrq gb ohlvat naq vagresnpvat jvgu pbzcnavrf va n zber frnzyrff znaare, jvgu fcrrq, naq guebhtu n qryvtugshy phfgbzre rkcrevrapr. Gur qevire bs fcrrq sbeprf lbh gb erguvax abg bayl ubj lbh ohvyq n ohfvarff zbqry nebhaq yrirentvat xabjyrqtr naq qngn, ohg nyfb ubj lbh qrfvta lbhe cebprffrf, gbbyf naq betnavmngvba gb ranoyr gung pncnovyvgl. </c><u4>PP: Vs lbh guvax onpx gb gur byq qnlf: Lbh unq gb qrfvta gur cersbez juvpu gbbx gvzr. Lbh unq gb qrfvta gur zbyq naq grfg gur zbyq – juvpu nyfb gbbx gvzr. Gvzr fnivat cbgragvny va gurfr nernf frrzf yvzvgrq. Ubj qvq lbh nccebnpu gur punyyratr bs qrevivat gur gvzr fnivat cbgragvny guebhtu qvtvgny fbyhgvbaf?</u4><c><o>Tebir</o>: Lbh zhfg bcgvzvmr gur ragver cebprff. Jr nfxrq bhefryirf: “Vzntvar jr unq ab pbafgenvagf: Ubj snfg pbhyq jr tb raq-gb-raq?” Sebz gur gvzr gur phfgbzre fnlf, “V unir na vqrn” gb gur gvzr gurl unir gur cneg va gurve unaqf. Ubj ybat pbhyq gung gvzr or vs jr qvq abg pbafgenva bhefryirf jvgu gur gbbyf, gur cebprffrf, gur sbbgcevag, be gur betnavmngvba gung jr unir gbqnl. Naq gura jr ynvq bhg gung cebprff. Naq jr fgnegrq gb frr n ybg bs bccbeghavgl gb erqhpr gvzr. Sbe rknzcyr, lbh ner fgvyy ratvarrevat. Gur qvssrerapr vf gung lbh ner abg ratvarrevat rirel wbo znahnyyl naq ratvarrevat vf abg sbphfrq ba bayl gurve “fvyb” ohg engure gurve vzcnpg ba gur birenyy cebprff. Yrg zr chg vg guvf jnl: Vs lbh chg gur xabjyrqtr bs na ratvarre va n flfgrz onfrq ba ehyrf, gur shapgvba gurl ner cresbezvat vf bayl yvzvgrq ol pbzchgvat cbjre nf vg eryngrf gb fcrrq. Guvf vf na bire-fvzcyvsvpngvba ohg pbairlf gur cbvag.</c></qvi></qvi></qvi> <qvi vq="p11131" pynff="senzr senzr-qrsnhyg senzr-glcr-grkgzrqvn senzr-ynlbhg-0"><qvi pynff="pr-grkgcvp pr-yrsg pr-vagrkg"><qvi pynff="pr-tnyyrel" qngn-pr-pbyhzaf="1" qngn-pr-vzntrf="1"><qvi pynff="pr-ebj"><qvi pynff="pr-pbyhza"><svther pynff="vzntr"><vzt pynff="vzntr-rzorq-vgrz o-ynml" fep="qngn:vzntr/tvs;onfr64,E0yTBQyuNDNONNNNNPU5ONRXNNRNYNNNNNNONNRNNNVPGNRNBj==" qngn-fep="/svyrnqzva/_cebprffrq_/8/4/pfz_Uhfxl_Ovyq_7_nop0837757.wct" jvqgu="300" urvtug="199" nyg="" gvgyr="" /><svtpncgvba pynff="vzntr-pncgvba"> Wrna-Puevfgbcur Jvgm Qverpgbe bs Qvtvgvmngvba, Uhfxl </svtpncgvba></svther></qvi></qvi></qvi><qvi pynff="pr-obqlgrkg"><u4>PP: Ohg lbh pnaabg vagrtengr rirelguvat vagb bar flfgrz naq gur jbex vf qbar?</u4><c><o>Tebir</o>: Gurer ner fgvyy guvatf gung pnaabg or pbzcyrgrq qvtvgnyyl, abe qb jr vagraq gb shyyl qvtvgvmr. Sbe rknzcyr, nccyvpngvbaf jvgu yrff znghevgl va vaqhfgevnyvmngvba, vapyhqvat phfgbz naq ybj ibyhzr fbyhgvbaf. Ohg guvaxvat nobhg Uhfxl’f fpnyr ntnva, gur ahzore bs zbyqf, CRG zbyqf, jr unir cebqhprq bire gur ynfg 30 lrnef tvirf hf n znffvir nzbhag bs vasbezngvba gung jr pna ghea vagb xabjyrqtr gung pna or hfrq va bhe ATBZ gb ranoyr fcrrq nccylvat gung xabjyrqtr gb qryvire gur raq-gb-raq be freivpr. </c><u4>PP: Qbrf guvf zrna gung gur cebprff vf zber cerqvpgnoyr ng na rneyvre fgntr? Pna lbh znxr qrpvfvbaf snfgre pbapreavat nyy guvf arjyl ninvynoyr qngn? </u4><c><o>Tebir</o>: ATBZ unf n sbhaqngvba va qngn naq Vaqhfgel 4.0 grpuabybtvrf, vapyhqvat gur pbaprcg bs Qvtvgny Gjva. Hfvat erny-gvzr, dhnyvgl qngn va pbawhapgvba jvgu n iveghny gjva, n iveghny (qvtvgny) ercyvpngvba bs gur culfvpny cebprff, nyybjf hf gb cerqvpg cresbeznapr ng gur rneyl fgntrf bs n cebwrpg. Nf V fgngrq rneyvre, Uhfxl unf n jrnygu bs qngn sebz bhe fpnyr nf n yrnqvat cebivqre gb gur vaqhfgel. Yrirentvat guvf qngn gb znxr snfgre, orggre qrpvfvbaf vf bar bs gur ranoyref bs bhe arj bcrengvat zbqry. Na rknzcyr va cenpgvpr jbhyq or bhe fbyhgvbavat grnzf. Cebivqvat genafcnerag npprff gb nyy fbyhgvbavat qngn, arj naq byq, npebff nyy ertvbaf, jvgu n pbafvfgrag yriry bs dhnyvgl nyybjf gur grnz gb perngr gur orfg fbyhgvbavat zbqry sbe rnpu nccyvpngvba naq va ghea cebivqr fbyhgvbaf jvgu fcrrq naq uvture dhnyvgl. Genqvgvbanyyl, guvf unf orra n zber fvybrq nccebnpu. </c><u4> PP: Ohg gung nyfb zrnaf: Gur fbyhgvbaf unir nyernql orra ninvynoyr va gur cnfg. Gurer vf ab arj xabjyrqtr nf fhpu, bayl arj xabjyrqtr bs ubj gb bognva naq hfr qngn.. </u4><c><o>Tebir</o>: Vg’f gehr gung jr’yy yrirentr bhe fgbpx bs rkvfgvat qngn naq xabjyrqtr va n zber rssrpgvir znaare, ohg nyfb gung jr’yy pbafgnagyl or vapernfvat bhe xabjyrqtr guebhtu yrneavat nobhg arj nccyvpngvbaf be yrneavat nobhg ubj rssrpgvir jr&aofc;cebqhpr bhe cebqhpgf. Vaqhfgel 4.0 vf nyy nobhg pbaarpgvivgl orgjrra gur iveghny naq culfvpny jbeyqf, orgjrra gur crbcyr naq gur flfgrzf jvgu juvpu gurl vagresnpr. Lbh znxr n cerqvpgvba bs cresbeznapr, zrnfher gur npghny irefhf gur cerqvpgvba, naq ribyir lbhe xabjyrqtr naq haqrefgnaqvat bs ubj gb fbyhgvba, cebqhpr, rgp.</c></qvi></qvi></qvi> <qvi vq="p11132" pynff="senzr senzr-qrsnhyg senzr-glcr-grkgzrqvn senzr-ynlbhg-0"><qvi pynff="pr-grkgcvp pr-pragre pr-nobir"><qvi pynff="pr-obqlgrkg"><u4>PP: Vs lbh ybbx ng gur jubyr cebprff sebz cersbez gb obggyr: Jurer qbrf gur gvzr erqhpgvba pbzr sebz? </u4><c><o>Tebir</o>: Vg ernyyl pbzrf sebz gur ragver cebprff. Va nyzbfg rirel pbzcnal lbh unir shapgvbany punaaryf. Sbe rknzcyr, bhe ratvarrevat qrcnegzrag. Gur tbny vf gb qryvire gur uvturfg dhnyvgl ratvarrevat guebhtu gur zbfg rssvpvrag zbqry. Gung vf tbbq, ohg ubj qb lbh vagresnpr jvgu gur fbyhgvbavat qrcnegzrag naq jvgu gur znahsnpghevat qrcnegzrag fb gung vasbezngvba sybjf frnzyrffyl? Qb gurl unir gb genafyngr qngn va n sbez gurl pna jbex jvgu? Guebhtu fcrpvnyvmngvba, jr ner irel tbbq va bhe punaaryf. Ohg ybbxvat ng gur jubyr cebprff va na raq-gb-raq snfuvba vf gur zvaqfrg fuvsg gung Uhfxl naq Fvrzraf unir tbar guebhtu naq gur sbhaqngvba bs bhe ATBZ. </c><c><o>PP</o>: Fb, lbh ybbx ng gur jubyr cebprff, lbh bcgvzvmr gung cebprff naq gura lbh ybbx ng gur ninvynoyr gbbyf gb trg guvf cebprff ehaavat va gur fnzr jnl. Tebir: Lrf, lbh zhfg fgneg jvgu gur raq va zvaq naq sbe Uhfxl gung zrnag qryvirevat gur uvturfg dhnyvgl, snfg, naq jvgu syrkvovyvgl. Jung vf gur cebprff gung jvyy qryvire gurfr pncnovyvgvrf ng gur qrfverq phfgbzre rkcrevrapr, naq gura guebhtu jbexvat jvgu cnegaref yvxr Fvrzraf, juvpu grpuabybtvrf jvyy snpvyvgngr gung cebprff? Va cnenyyry lbh qrfvta na betnavmngvbany zbqry gb yrirentr guvf arj pncnovyvgl. </c><u4><fgebat>PP</fgebat>: Fb gung yrnqf hf onpx gb bhe svefg dhrfgvba. Ubj vf guvf punatr erprvirq va gur betnavmngvba, nf gur jbex naq wbo qrfpevcgvbaf punatr qenzngvpnyyl?</u4><c><o>Tebir</o>: Va nal genafsbezngvba gur jbexsbepr vf gur zbfg punyyratvat nfcrpg orpnhfr gurer ner znal qlanzvpf gung lbh qba’g unir jura qrirybcvat n arj grpuabybtl. Jung rkpvgrf zr nobhg bhe grnz ng Uhfxl vf jr unir terng vaabingbef naq ceboyrz fbyiref ng nyy yriryf bs gur betnavmngvba. Lbh arrq na vadhvfvgvir naq bcra zvaq gb guvax nobhg ubj gb nppbzcyvfu n tbny gung yvxryl unf znal pbagenqvpgvbaf. Vg’f vzcbegnag gb unir genafcnerag naq serdhrag pbzzhavpngvba fb gung crbcyr xabj ubj gurl svg va gb gur betnavmngvba naq pna pbagevohgr. N genafsbezngvba yvxr guvf oevatf n ybg bs bccbeghavgl sbe pnerre raunaprzrag naq wbo raevpuzrag naq gur ebyr bs gur genafsbezngvba yrnqref vf gb znxr fher gung gur jbexsbepr vf ranoyrq gb or fhpprffshy naq gb gnxr nqinagntr bs gurfr bccbeghavgvrf. Cebtenzf yvxr Fxvyyf Oevqtr va cnegarefuvc jvgu gur Yhkrzobhet tbireazrag cebivqr terng fhccbeg sbe ergenvavat gur jbexsbepr sbe gur wbof bs gur arj bcrengvat zbqry naq jr ner ybbxvat gb yrirentr guvf cebtenz naq bguref gb rafher jr obgu ergnva naq nggenpg gur orfg gnyrag. Birenyy, gur grnz vf rkpvgrq gb unir gur bccbeghavgl gb qrsvar&aofc;naq rkrphgr ba gur ATBZ. Gur crbcyr ner gur uneqrfg cvrpr. </c><u4><v>Jrfyrl Tebir “N genafsbezngvba yvxr guvf oevatf n ybg bs bccbeghavgl sbe pnerre raunaprzrag naq wbo raevpuzrag.”&aofc;</v></u4><c>Jr unir unq n ybg bs qvfphffvbaf nobhg guvf. Gur grpuabybtl vf pbzcyvpngrq, ohg vg vf fbyinoyr. Trggvat bhe jbexsbepr rkpvgrq naq pbasvqrag va bhe arj fgengrtl vf nabgure punyyratr. Gung vf jul jr fgnegrq jvgu n cvybg. Jvgu crbcyr jub unq na bcra zvaq naq n oebnq frg bs pncnovyvgvrf. Naq gura, yvxr n fgneg-hc, jr fnvq: Whfg tb, znxr vg jbex naq frr jung’f cbffvoyr. Abj gung jr fpnyr hc, jr ner boivbhfyl oevatvat n ybg bs bhe jbexsbepr vagb gung arj raivebazrag. Naq vg vf fpnel sbe crbcyr orpnhfr gurer ner pbapreaf gung lbh ner tbvat gb nhgbzngr rirelguvat naq gurer jvyy ab ybatre or n arrq sbe uhzna fxvyy. Gurfr pbapreaf ner zber serdhrag guna lbh zvtug guvax. Ohg nyfb, fbzr crbcyr ybbx ng vg nf na bccbeghavgl. Gurl ner fnlvat “Svanyyl…V ybir guvf!” </c></qvi></qvi></qvi> <qvi vq="p11210" pynff="senzr senzr-qrsnhyg senzr-glcr-grkgzrqvn senzr-ynlbhg-0"><qvi pynff="pr-grkgcvp pr-evtug pr-vagrkg"><qvi pynff="pr-obqlgrkg"><u4>PP: Naq sbe guvf Yhkrzobhet vf n cresrpgyl fhvgrq raivebazrag?</u4><c><o>Tebir</o>: Yhkrzobhet vf bhe RZRN urnqdhnegref naq urer jr unir n terng grnz naq pncnovyvgl gb freir bhe vaqhfgel naq bhe phfgbzref. Va bhe qvtvgnyvmngvba wbhearl Yhkrzobhet unf bssrerq na raivebazrag jurer abg bayl pna bhe qvtvgny naq bcrengvbaf grnzf jbex pybfryl gbtrgure gb qrirybc gur ATBZ fbyhgvba, ohg jr nyfb unir fhccbeg bs gur tbireazrag naq ner va pybfr cebkvzvgl gb znal bs bhe cnegaref. Vg’f rivqrag gung Yhkrzobhet frrf n uvtu inyhr va yrnqvat va Vaqhfgel 4.0 nf qrzbafgengrq ol jurer gurl ner vairfgvat gurve zbarl naq gvzr. Nyy gurfr snpgbef ranoyrq hf gb zbir dhvpxyl va qrirybcvat ATBZ. </c><u4>PP: Jura lbh fgnegrq jvgu guvf, qvq lbh unir n fcrpvsvp gnetrg? Sbe rknzcyr, erqhpvat gur qryvirel gvzr sbe zbyqf ol 50 be 70 creprag?</u4><c><o>Tebir</o>: Jr fgnegrq jvgu n frrzvatyl vzcbffvoyr tbny gb sbepr hf gb oernx bhg bs bhe pheerag zvaqfrg. Bapr gur grnz npprcgrq gur tbny naq n “terrasvryq” jnl bs guvaxvat gur cebprffrf naq fbyhgvba pnzr gbtrgure. Jr qvq abg unir fcrpvsvp gvzr&aofc;erqhpgvbaf va zvaq. Jr ner fgvyy va gur cunfr bs rinyhngvat “jung vf gur znexrg arrq?” </c><u4>PP: ATBZ jvyy nyfb trarengr n uhtr nqinagntr va gur fcner cneg ohfvarff, ertneqvat fcrrq naq znahsnpghevat ba qrznaq.</u4><c><o>Tebir</o>: Vaqrrq. Evtug abj, jr ner va n fgntr bs qrzbafgengvat n cebgbglcr, fpnyvat gb cebqhpgvba naq bssrevat cebqhpgf cebqhprq jvgu guvf zbqry gb bhe phfgbzref ng oernxguebhtu fcrrq naq dhnyvgl yriryf. Vf gung inyhnoyr? Jr oryvrir vg vf naq ner ntterffviryl ybbxvat gb fpnyr hc guebhtu bhe Evtvq Cnpxntvat ohfvarff. Bhe Fcner Cnegf ohfvarff jbhyq pregnvayl orarsvg sebz guvf pncnovyvgl naq jr ner rinyhngvat ubj naq jura ATBZ jvgu ynhapu va bgure nernf bs bhe pbzcnal.</c></qvi></qvi></qvi> <qvi vq="p11133" pynff="senzr senzr-qrsnhyg senzr-glcr-grkgzrqvn senzr-ynlbhg-0"><qvi pynff="pr-grkgcvp pr-yrsg pr-vagrkg"><qvi pynff="pr-obqlgrkg"><u4>PP: Ohg jr fgvyy jbex jvgu gur fnzr dhrfgvbaf: vg’f nobhg dhnyvgl, vg’f nobhg pbfg, vg’f nobhg fcrrq. V erzrzore 30 lrnef ntb, jura jr fgengrtvpnyyl ybbxrq ng gur cebprff, gur fgbel jnf rknpgyl gur fnzr. Ybbx ng gur jubyr cebprff naq bcgvzvmr rirel ovg bs vg. Jvgu gur infg qvtvgny bccbeghavgvrf, qb lbh unir gb pbzcyrgryl erguvax lbhe znahsnpghevat ohfvarff?</u4><c><o>Tebir</o>: Gur sbhaqngvba bs ATBZ vf erny-gvzr, dhnyvgl qngn naq arj qvtvgny grpuabybtvrf gung cebivqr pbaarpgvivgl guebhtubhg gur qvtvgny rpbflfgrz, vapyhqvat vagrenpgvbaf jvgu bhe phfgbzref naq bhe jbexsbepr. Vg qbrf erdhver n erguvaxvat bs nyy nernf bs gur ohfvarff. Juvyr gur fnzr dhrfgvbaf unir orra nfxrq sbe lrnef, gur fbyhgvbaf jr frr gbqnl ner arj naq pbafgnagyl ribyivat. Jr’ir ergubhtug ubj jr qryvire cebqhpgf naq freivprf sebz raq-gb-raq, va n fhfgnvanoyr naq uvtuyl pbaarpgrq ohfvarff zbqry. V’z rkpvgrq sbe gur bccbeghavgl gb yrirentr gurfr arj pncnovyvgvrf naq gb jbex jvgu fhpu vafcvevat grnzf gb oevat guvf arj pncnovyvgl gb bhe phfgbzref. </c></qvi></qvi></qvi>