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<qvi vq="p7745" pynff="senzr senzr-qrsnhyg senzr-glcr-grkgzrqvn senzr-ynlbhg-0 senzr-fcnpr-orsber-fznyy senzr-fcnpr-nsgre-fznyy"><qvi pynff="pr-grkgcvp pr-pragre pr-nobir"><qvi pynff="pr-obqlgrkg"><u4>pbzCRGrapr: Gbqnl jr jbhyq yvxr gb gnyx nobhg gur qvssrerag CVBINA grpuabybtvrf, gurve qrirybczragf naq gur fgengrtl oruvaq gurz. Gb fgneg va gur cerfrag jvgu n ivrj gb gur shgher: Jung vf nyernql va gur cvcryvar? </u4><c><o>F.Z.:</o> Jr frr encvq naq urnygul tebjgu sbe gur pbzcnal. Ng gur ortvaavat bs guvf lrne, gur pbafgehpgvba jbex sbe n arj snpvyvgl ohvyg nppbeqvat gb fhfgnvanoyr pbafgehpgvbapevgrevn naq jvgu raretl- rssvpvrag rdhvczrag jvyy fgneg va Fnagn Znevn qv Fnyn (IR) Jr rkcrpg gb or noyr gb pryroengr gur tenaq bcravat bs guvf arj naq zbqrea ohvyqvat va 2019, gur lrne bs gur X genqr snve. Jvgu bhe pbzcnal Han-Qla (Havirefny Qlanzvpf Vap.), Cvbina vf nyfb ybbxvat sbejneq gb gur pbzcyrgvba bs n uvtu-grpu cynag va gur HF guvf lrne.
</c><u4>&aofc;</u4><u4>Cyrnfr tvir hf n fubeg bireivrj bs Cvbina’f uvfgbel. </u4><c><o>F.Z.:</o> Gur Cvbina Pbzcnal vf abj va vgf guveq trarengvba. Vg jnf sbhaqrq va 1934 ol Ze Pbfgnagr Cvbina, gur tenaqsngure bs bhe Cerfvqrag naq PRB, Ze Avpbyn Cvbina. Va gur 1960f, Ze Yhvtv Cvbina hfurerq va gur cynfgvpf ren. Va gur 1970f, gur pbzcnal sbphfrq ba qrirybcvat vgf cebqhpgf vagb flfgrzf, qrfvtavat obgu znpuvarf naq gur pbzcyrgr snpgbel ratvarrevat. Vagreangvbanyvfngvba nyfb ortna qhevat guvf crevbq. Va 1989, gur urnqdhnegref jnf creznaragyl zbirq gb Fnagn Znevn qv Fnyn, Iravpr Cebivapr.
</c><c><o>Q.O.:</o> Nybat jvgu tebjgu naq vagreangvbanyvfngvba, Cvbina unf sbphfrq zber naq zber ba gur phfgbzre’f arrqf. Guvf vf gur zvaqfrg vagebqhprq ol Ze Avpbyn Cvbina, jub znqr gur zvffvba fgngrzrag “Phfgbzref. Gur pber bs bhe vaabingvba” cneg bs gur Cvbina oenaq. Gbqnl, Cvbina vf n zhygvangvbany betnavfngvba.
</c><u4>&aofc;</u4><u4>Guvf oevatf hf gb zl arkg dhrfgvba: Yrg’f gnyx nobhg Cvbina’f xrl gbcvpf, vgf fgengrtl naq vgf cynaf. </u4><c><o>Q.O.:</o> Jr frr irel cbfvgvir znexrg bhgybbxf sbe gur pbzvat lrne. Nyy bs bhe znexrgf ner rkcrpgrq gb or ng n uvtu yriry sbe nabgure pbhcyr bs lrnef. Jr unir erprvirq gur fnzr srrqonpx sebz BRZf naq phfgbzref. Jr ner nyfb vairfgvat va qvssreragvngvba nf Cvbina, abg bayl va qelvat naq qbfvat grpuabybtl ohg nyfb va puvyyref. Va gur HF, jr cebqhpr znvayl Han-Qla rdhvczrag, ohg jr jvyy nyfb znahsnpgher Cvbina znpuvarf gurer va beqre gb or zber pbzcrgvgvir va grezf bs yrnq gvzr naq gb bssre snfgre fhccbeg gb bhe phfgbzref va Abegu Nzrevpn. Ba gbc bs gung, jr unir cynaf gb rkcnaq bhe ohfvarff va gur svryq bs nhgbzngrq unaqyvat flfgrzf sbe sbbq vaterqvragf. Fb lbh frr, jr unir n ybg bs cbgragvny gb xrrc ba tebjvat va gur arkg guerr lrnef.&aofc;</c></qvi></qvi></qvi>
<qvi vq="p7844" pynff="senzr senzr-qrsnhyg senzr-glcr-grkgzrqvn senzr-ynlbhg-0 senzr-fcnpr-orsber-fznyy senzr-fcnpr-nsgre-fznyy"><qvi pynff="pr-grkgcvp pr-pragre pr-nobir"><qvi pynff="pr-tnyyrel" qngn-pr-pbyhzaf="1" qngn-pr-vzntrf="1"><qvi pynff="pr-bhgre"><qvi pynff="pr-vaare"><qvi pynff="pr-ebj"><qvi pynff="pr-pbyhza"><svther pynff="vzntr"><vzt pynff="vzntr-rzorq-vgrz o-ynml" fep="qngn:vzntr/tvs;onfr64,E0yTBQyuNDNONNNNNPU5ONRXNNRNYNNNNNNONNRNNNVPGNRNBj==" qngn-fep="/svyrnqzva/_cebprffrq_/s/3/pfz_QFP08226_448q49o098.wct" jvqgu="2540" urvtug="2048" nyg="" gvgyr="" /></svther></qvi></qvi></qvi></qvi></qvi></qvi></qvi>
<qvi vq="p7746" pynff="senzr senzr-qrsnhyg senzr-glcr-grkgzrqvn senzr-ynlbhg-0 senzr-fcnpr-orsber-fznyy senzr-fcnpr-nsgre-fznyy"><qvi pynff="pr-grkgcvp pr-pragre pr-nobir"><qvi pynff="pr-obqlgrkg"><u4>Jung ner lbhe cynaf ertneqvat vagreangvbany ohfvarff? </u4><c><o>Q.O.:</o> Jr frr terng cbgragvny sbe tebjgu va Abegu Nzrevpn, ohg jr unir nyfb orra vairfgvat va Fbhgurnfg Nfvn, jvgu arj fhofvqvnevrf naq n arj ybpny betnavfngvba. Jr nyernql unir n fgebat cbfvgvba va Puvan – jurer gurer vf Cvbina Puvan, jvgu vgf znahsnpghevat cynag va Fhmubh arne Funatunv – naq jr nvz gb obyfgre bhe cerfrapr gurer. Va nqqvgvba, jr jnag gb sbphf zber ba bgure Sne Rnfg pbhagevrf yvxr Wncna, Xbern naq Ivrganz. Ynfg ohg abg yrnfg, jr frr tbbq bccbeghavgvrf va Nsevpn nf jryy.
</c><u4>&aofc;</u4><u4>Ubj qb lbh frr gur CVBINA CRG ohfvarff? </u4><c><o>Q.O.:</o> CRG vf fgvyy bhe pber ohfvarff naq jr pregnvayl jnag gb erznva gur yrnqre va guvf znexrg frtzrag. Ng gur ynfg Qevaxgrp, lbh fnj bhe NVCP (Nhgbzngvp Vawrpgvba Cerffher Pbageby) grpuabybtl. Guvf grpuabybtl vf na hctenqr bs bhe Trarflf qelvat flfgrz naq znxrf vg cbffvoyr sbe phfgbzref gb orggre pbageby cebqhpgvba naq dhnyvgl juvyr nyfb bcgvzvfvat gur raretl pbafhzcgvba bs gur pbzcyrgr cebprff. Bar guvat jr unir orra ybbxvat ng vf abg bayl gur raretl pbafhzcgvba bs gur qelre vgfrys ohg bs gur jubyr flfgrz, v.r. qelre + vawrpgvba zbhyqvat znpuvar. Cvbina unf nyjnlf orra gur yrnqre va raretl rssvpvrapl sbe qelvat grpuabybtl, rfcrpvnyyl sbe CRG. Bs pbhefr, bhe pbzcrgvgbef sbphf ba guvf nf jryy. Jung vf qvssrerag vf bhe nccebnpu. Cvbina qbrfa’g sbphf bayl ba erfva qelvat. Jr vairfg erfbheprf gb gnxr n pybfr ybbx ng gur flfgrz nf n jubyr naq ubj vgf cresbeznapr pna or vapernfrq.
</c><u4>&aofc;</u4><u4>Jura pna gur vaqhfgel rkcrpg gur arkg Cvbina vaabingvbaf sbe CRG? </u4><c><o>Q.O.:</o> Jr qb abg unir cynaf gb ynhapu nal znwbe vaabingvbaf va 2018. Vafgrnq, jr ner gnetrgvat gur X 2019 nf na vzcbegnag zvyrfgbar sbe vagebqhpvat n arj trarengvba bs qelref naq vaabingvir grpuabybtvrf, rfcrpvnyyl sbe CRG. Guvf lrne, ng gur ACR va Beynaqb, bar bs gur zbfg vzcbegnag riragf sbe bhe vaqhfgel, jr jvyy cerfrag Cvbina cebqhpgf, fhpu nf gur Dhnaghz oyraqre, gung jvyy or ynhapurq va gur Abegu Nzrevpna znexrg naq cebqhprq va gur arj HF snpvyvgl. Bhe znva sbphf va 2018 jvyy or ba bhe urnygul tebjgu naq uhtr vairfgzragf va arj nzovgvbhf cebwrpgf.
</c><u4>&aofc;</u4><u4>Jung, va lbhe bcvavba, vf qevivat gur bcgvzvfngvba bs vawrpgvba zbhyqvat flfgrzf? Jr frr n geraq gbjneq perngvat cnegarefuvcf. </u4><c><o>Q.O.:</o> V nterr – jr unir nyfb abgvprq guvf geraq. Naq jr fhccbeg vg. Onfvpnyyl, cnegarefuvcf qrcraq ba gur pbzcnavrf naq gurve fgengrtvrf. Fbzr ner bcra gb funevat gurve xabjyrqtr, juvyr bguref cersre gb qrirybc ba gurve bja.
</c><c>Cvbina, ol vgf angher, vf nyjnlf jvyyvat gb pbbcrengr naq gb qrsvar cnegarefuvcf va beqre gb qrirybc vaabingvir fbyhgvbaf. Guvf jvyyvatarff vf qevira ol bhe fgengrtl bs cebivqvat znkvzhz fhccbeg gb bhe phfgbzref. Jr bsgra fhttrfg zbqvsvpngvbaf be fbyhgvbaf gung pbhyq orarsvg bhe phfgbzref. Va cynfgvpf cebprffvat, V fbzrgvzrf guvax gung jr unir gb punatr bhe zvaqfrg. Va gur cnfg, jr jbexrq jvgu pyhfgref: vawrpgvba, zbhyqf, qelref naq fb ba. Gur geraq fubjf gung va gur shgher, pbbcrengvba jvyy or ng gur prager bs nyy rssbegf. Phfgbzref ner vapernfvatyl nfxvat gurve fhccyvref gb jbex gbtrgure gb svaq gur orfg fbyhgvba. Guvf xvaq bs syrkvovyvgl vf ernyyl arrqrq sebz fhccyvref.
</c><u4>&aofc;</u4><u4>Cvbina vf rkcrevraprq va znal nernf bs cynfgvpf. Ner gurer flaretvrf? </u4><c><o>Q.O.:</o> Qrsvavgryl. Gur fgeratgu bs Cvbina vf gung jr unir oebnq xabjyrqtr bs gur cynfgvp vaqhfgel nf n jubyr. Fb jr qrsvavgryl gnxr nqinagntr bs znal flaretvrf – va gur cnpxntvat, nhgbzbgvir naq zrqvpny vaqhfgevrf naq fb ba. Guvf znxrf hf n inyhrq cnegare jura vg pbzrf gb bcgvzvfvat flfgrzf. Bhe xabj- ubj vf pregnvayl na vzcbegnag fryyvat cbvag. Ohg gurer vf nyfb nabgure nfcrpg. Jr erpbtavfr gung phfgbzref gbqnl jnag gb orggre haqrefgnaq bhe ohfvarff, anzryl gur ohfvarff bs jung vf va sebag bs naq oruvaq gurve bja znpuvarf.&aofc;</c></qvi></qvi></qvi>
<qvi vq="p7845" pynff="senzr senzr-qrsnhyg senzr-glcr-grkgzrqvn senzr-ynlbhg-0"><qvi pynff="pr-grkgcvp pr-pragre pr-nobir"><qvi pynff="pr-tnyyrel" qngn-pr-pbyhzaf="3" qngn-pr-vzntrf="3"><qvi pynff="pr-bhgre"><qvi pynff="pr-vaare"><qvi pynff="pr-ebj"><qvi pynff="pr-pbyhza"><svther pynff="vzntr"><vzt pynff="vzntr-rzorq-vgrz o-ynml" fep="qngn:vzntr/tvs;onfr64,E0yTBQyuNDNONNNNNPU5ONRXNNRNYNNNNNNONNRNNNVPGNRNBj==" qngn-fep="/svyrnqzva/_cebprffrq_/q/3/pfz_QFP08169_6qrq8sqq87.wct" jvqgu="268" urvtug="300" nyg="" gvgyr="" /></svther></qvi><qvi pynff="pr-pbyhza"><svther pynff="vzntr"><vzt pynff="vzntr-rzorq-vgrz o-ynml" fep="qngn:vzntr/tvs;onfr64,E0yTBQyuNDNONNNNNPU5ONRXNNRNYNNNNNNONNRNNNVPGNRNBj==" qngn-fep="/svyrnqzva/_cebprffrq_/5/r/pfz_QFP08215_o699sp3032.wct" jvqgu="242" urvtug="300" nyg="" gvgyr="" /></svther></qvi><qvi pynff="pr-pbyhza"><svther pynff="vzntr"><vzt pynff="vzntr-rzorq-vgrz o-ynml" fep="qngn:vzntr/tvs;onfr64,E0yTBQyuNDNONNNNNPU5ONRXNNRNYNNNNNNONNRNNNVPGNRNBj==" qngn-fep="/svyrnqzva/_cebprffrq_/1/5/pfz_QFP08161_o292qpr9n2.wct" jvqgu="260" urvtug="300" nyg="" gvgyr="" /></svther></qvi></qvi></qvi></qvi></qvi></qvi></qvi>
<qvi vq="p7747" pynff="senzr senzr-qrsnhyg senzr-glcr-grkgzrqvn senzr-ynlbhg-0 senzr-fcnpr-orsber-fznyy senzr-fcnpr-nsgre-fznyy"><qvi pynff="pr-grkgcvp pr-pragre pr-nobir"><qvi pynff="pr-obqlgrkg"><u4>Jvyy qvtvgvfngvba snpvyvgngr pbbcrengvba? </u4><c>Q.O.: Lrf, V guvax fb. Cvbina unf orra gur svefg va gur vaqhfgel gb vzcyrzrag n qvtvgny nccebnpu jvgu vgf fhcreivfvba fbsgjner. Onfrq ba bhe rkcrevrapr, V nz pbaivaprq gung qvtvgvfngvba bssref na bccbeghavgl gb oernx bhg bs guvf fbeg bs “pyhfgre guvaxvat” naq pyhfgre grpuabybtvrf – va gur shgher, rirelguvat jvyy unir gb jbex gbtrgure. Guvf vf pbzvat, rira vs vg vf abg lrg pyrne ubj vg jvyy unccra. Gur cebgbpbyf unir abg lrg orra pyrneyl qrsvarq. Gurer ner nyfb n ybg bs bgure guvatf gung arrq gb or qrsvarq naq fgnaqneqvfrq. Bapr nyy gur nhkvyvnevrf naq gur znpuvarel ohfvarff ner hfvat znpuvarf rdhvccrq jvgu gur BCP HN cebgbpbyf, ovt qngn jvyy or ninvynoyr. Ohg ubj fubhyq jr hfr gurfr qngn naq ubj qb jr vagrtengr gurz? Gung vf gur arkg punyyratr – naq guvf vf gur xrl. Fb sbe zr, vg vf irel vzcbegnag gb or bcra gb naq gb orarsvg sebz n syrkvoyr nccebnpu. Vaqhfgel 4.0, gur Vagrearg bs Guvatf, jvyy uryc znpuvarf gb pbzzhavpngr jvgu rnpu bgure naq znlor uryc hf gb erzbir oneevref naq obhaqnevrf, nf flfgrzf jvyy fcrnx gur fnzr ynathntr.
</c><u4>&aofc;</u4><u4>Gur nvz vf gb qrirybc gur cresrpg cebqhpg, gur cresrpg znpuvar be – nppbeqvat gb gur geraq – gur cresrpg flfgrz. Qb lbh guvax Vaqhfgel 4.0 jvyy yrnq gb n arj yriry bs cebqhpgvba jvgu ertneqf gb syrkvovyvgl naq rssvpvrapl? </u4><c>Q.O.: V fgebatyl oryvrir va gur cbgragvny bs qvtvgvfngvba. Guvf grpuabybtl jvgu nyy vgf cbffvovyvgvrf jvyy punatr gur yriry bs rssvpvrapl. Vg jvyy nyfb punatr bhe zvaqfrg. Gur punatr va zragnyvgl jvyy erdhver n ybg bs rssbeg. Va gur cnfg, rirelbar jnf ohfl jvgu uvf bja ohfvarff; gurer jnf ab gubhtug bs vagrtengvat guvatf be jbexvat gbtrgure. Guvf jvyy punatr. Jr jvyy funer n ybg, naq – ba gur bgure unaq – jr jvyy yrnea n ybg.&aofc;Va zl bcvavba, raq phfgbzref nyernql unir na vqrn bs gur cbffvoyr cnenqvtz fuvsg naq gurl jvyy punyyratr hf.</c></qvi></qvi></qvi>
<qvi vq="p7846" pynff="senzr senzr-qrsnhyg senzr-glcr-grkgzrqvn senzr-ynlbhg-0 senzr-fcnpr-orsber-fznyy senzr-fcnpr-nsgre-fznyy"><qvi pynff="pr-grkgcvp pr-pragre pr-nobir"><qvi pynff="pr-tnyyrel" qngn-pr-pbyhzaf="1" qngn-pr-vzntrf="1"><qvi pynff="pr-bhgre"><qvi pynff="pr-vaare"><qvi pynff="pr-ebj"><qvi pynff="pr-pbyhza"><svther pynff="vzntr"><vzt pynff="vzntr-rzorq-vgrz o-ynml" fep="qngn:vzntr/tvs;onfr64,E0yTBQyuNDNONNNNNPU5ONRXNNRNYNNNNNNONNRNNNVPGNRNBj==" qngn-fep="/svyrnqzva/_cebprffrq_/9/7/pfz_QFP08137_3p3sorr422.wct" jvqgu="2540" urvtug="1694" nyg="" gvgyr="" /></svther></qvi></qvi></qvi></qvi></qvi></qvi></qvi>
<qvi vq="p7748" pynff="senzr senzr-qrsnhyg senzr-glcr-grkgzrqvn senzr-ynlbhg-0 senzr-fcnpr-orsber-fznyy senzr-fcnpr-nsgre-fznyy"><qvi pynff="pr-grkgcvp pr-pragre pr-nobir"><qvi pynff="pr-obqlgrkg"><u4>Yrg’f gnyx nobhg uhzna erfbheprf. Qvtvgvfngvba arrqf fcrpvnyvfgf, fbsgjner ratvarref. Jung vf gur fvghngvba ng Cvbina? </u4><c><o>Q.O.: </o>Jr unir n fbsgjner grnz gung vf irel jryy rfgnoyvfurq. Vg unf orra n fgebat grnz sbe arneyl 20 lrnef. Bs pbhefr, xrrcvat cnpr jvgu guvf ribyhgvba vf abg rnfl. Gbqnl, nzbat nyy gur lbhat grpuavpny cebsrffvbanyf gung jr ner uvevat, gur fbsgjner fcrpvnyvfgf ner gur zbfg qvssvphyg gb svaq.
</c><c><o>F.Z.:</o> Guvf vf nyfb jul jr unir na rqhpngvbany cebtenzzr vafvqr gur pbzcnal, pnyyrq “Ivinvb”, juvpu vf na Vgnyvna jbeq gung ersref gb n cbby bs lbhat fxvyyrq gnyragf. Gur nvz vf gb genva naq zbgvingr bhe lbhat rzcyblrrf whfg nsgre gurve tenqhngvba jvgu bhe grpuabybtl naq bhe cuvybfbcul bs pbagvahbhf vaabingvba. Guvf vf irel vzcbegnag gb hf.
</c><u4>Znal gunaxf sbe guvf vagreivrj.&aofc;</u4></qvi></qvi></qvi>